The reason aphobes are so hell-bent on insisting asexuality is a “modifier” rather than an orientation is because they’re trying to reconcile their lip service to gay aces with their desire to construct gayness the same way Straightness constructs itself, i.e. a rigid artifice with clearly defined, closed borders, rather than a fluid and nuanced identity, because respectability politics means making yourself look as much like your oppressor as possible.
It’s also why so much aphobia is repurposed biphobia and transphobia, and sometimes even repurposed homophobia: the end goal has always been to expand heteronormativity to include themselves, and so they have to prove their ability to wield it.
The purpose of gatekeeping the community is to cull ~dead weight,~ because the smaller it is and the more hegemonic it looks, the easier it will be to lift themselves up into the privileged class.
They don’t seem to realize that this is never going to happen.
bad post op
The purpose of “gatekeeping” the community is TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF LGBT PEOPLE BY KEEPING OUT OUR OPPRESSORS
IF YOU’RE CIS AND HET YOU OPPRESS LGBT PEOPLE, EVEN IF YOU’RE ASEXUAL.
Also, ASEXUALS INVENTED THE DAMN SPLIT-ATTRACTION MODEL. THEY’RE THE ONES WHO MADE IT AND ENFORCED IT DESPITE BISEXUALS, GAY PEOPLE, PANSEXUALS, ETC, SAYING IT WAS HARMFUL.
SO SLEEP IN THE FUCKING BED YOU MADE.
Cis people don’t oppress lgbt people sweaty, cis people oppress trans folk. Cis LGB people oppress trans folk just as much as straight people do. Cis LGB people benefit, socially and materially, from transmisogyny, just as much as straight people do. Depending on the arena, sometimes more.
People who don’t lift a finger or raise their voice against drag queens and TWERFs in their own communities have no business uttering the words “ensuring lgbT safety.” It’s a thin fucking lie and we all know it. Out my face with this shit.
Note I said “if you are cis and het” as in cishet. as in both CIS AND HET. AS IN CISHET.
I’M SORRY DO YOU NEED ME TO REPEAT IT AGAIN?
CIS. AND. HET. AS IN CISHET. LIKE WHAT MY ORIGINAL REBLOG SAYS. CIS AND HET. AS IN. CISHET.
I’m trans, my pronouns are ON my blog, if you don’t bother to READ MY POST then don’t try to argue against it christtttttttttt
nice try trying to talk to be about transphobia and transmisogyny when literally I was saying CISHETS (as in…cis AND het…like the reblog says…) oppress the LGBT community. As in if you are CIS AND HET, you’re CISHET, and thus not LGBT, thus in the oppressor class.
just to clarify–the post says CIS AND HET. As in CISHET.
Yes, “if you’re cis and het,” that’s exactly what you said and that’s exactly what I responded to.
Because when you say, “if you’re cis and het, you’re an oppressor,” you’re also saying, “if you’re not both, then you’re not an oppressor.” And when you lump “lgbt oppression” oppression together as coming from a singular outside source, you reduce the violence within the community to some woobly notion of ~lateral aggression,~ and erase the very real ways that cis people within the community materially exploit /and privilege themselves/ at the expense of trans people. The language you’re using absolves cis people of their guilt on the grounds that they’re not ~het.~
But I mean sure, if it’s worth all that just to finally have somebody of your own to punch down at, you do you.
lmaoooooooo at aces “enforcing” the split-attraction model i am dying. exactly how are they ~enforcing~ it? insisting that it’s valid for them to use because that’s how they experience their orientations and refusing to surrender it as a way of framing their identities? being okay with people who aren’t a-spec using it if they feel it fits them? pointing out that it was actually first talked about by Karl Heinrich Ulrichs in the 19th century and isn’t a modern invention? pointing out most of that the arguments for it being homophobic literally boil down to insisting it’s not a real thing that exists that real people experience?
like seriously. lol. someone point me to where a significant number of aces (as in, more than a handful of assholes) insist everyone has to use it, and then if you can manage that, next pull your Narnia switch to transport me to the magical land beyond the wardrobe where aces have enough influence within the community to make it mandatory. like i’m here for reminding aces not to talk about others as if everyone uses it, but lbr, if that’s what you mean by “enforcing” then boy howdy do i have news for you about the meanings of words.
also way to go framing that in such a way as to imply that aces and gays, aces and bi people, aces and pan people, “etc.” (you rly just dumped trans people under “etc.” are you kidding me) are distinct categories that don’t overlap so that it’s aces ~forcing~ all the other orientations to use that nasty homophobic split-attraction model over their protests instead of an intracommunity discussion about the merits of the model with gay, bi, and trans aces on both sides, as well as gay, bi, and trans non-ace people on both sides.
(hi, i’m a lesbian ace, which is me using the split-attraction model! ask me whether my identity is homophobic! bonus points if you say i’ve ~internalized~ it! EXTRA MEGA BONUS POINTS for “asexuality is a modifier, not a real identity!” :D)
(all of the above short paragraph is sarcasm and you [tomibunny] are cordially invited to fuck off rather than speaking to me in any way, shape, or form.)
Just a tiny little addition: The split attraction model was originally presented by a gay man in the late 1800s (Link warnings for sexuality and gender theory in the 1870s, which was like… sure a thing… be prepared for low grade issues with trans and intersex identities especially).
It’s literally not even invented by aces, let alone a modern invention.
But thanks for playing.